Note from LifeSiteNews President Steve Jalsevac: This article, but above all the half-hour video interview with Colonel Douglas MacGregor, is one of the most helpful we have seen to date for understanding the Ukraine war and the great danger it presents to the United States, Europe and the world. It is strongly recommended viewing.
MacGregor has provided much needed balance to the massive globalist propaganda the public has been subjected to on this conflict since it began. We have found him to be exceptionally well-informed, competent and truthful with his unique insights and analyses, aided by his extensive military experience and numerous connections with US military and other reliable sources. He is a genuine US military patriot.
We would do well to pay attention to him since most of what he has predicted or explained has been validated by subsequent developments. MacGregor has been warning that we are now in the most dangerous phase of the war because of how badly the Ukrainians and all the financial actions against Russia have failed. He warns the Americans, who lack any diplomatic skills, may do something incredibly stupid and reckless to provoke Russia with potentially resulting nuclear war. However, there are a few crucial spects that MacGregor and other commentators are still missing. I explain them at the end of this article. Also, see the full text of the Colonel MacGregor interview video at the bottom of this article.
(Courageous Discourse) — We’ve all heard the expression, “In war, the first casualty is truth.” Apparently coined by the Greek dramatist Aeschylus, the expression has been repeated by countless public figures over the centuries.
What is the truth about the war in Ukraine? What are the origins of the conflict? What brought the disagreement between the governments of Ukrainian and Russia – a disagreement that had been simmering for many years – to a full-blown crisis in early 2022?
Years ago I wrote a draft manuscript for a novel about murder and political intrigue arising from the so-called “Pipeline Opera.” The opera was about the contest between two massive and competing pipeline projects for supplying natural gas to Europe – the American-sponsored “Nabuco” pipeline and the Russian-sponsored “South Stream.” Both projects were eventually cancelled, mostly for political reasons.
One thing that became fairly evident to me during my research is that there are longstanding and powerful interests in the United States who have no interest in peaceful cooperation with Russia, because it would imperil their extremely profitable industries. Peaceful cooperation with Russia would challenge America’s bloated defense budget ($886 billion this year). Another American industrial enterprise that would be inconceivable in the event of peace with Russia is Liquified Natural Gas production and shipping to Europe.
As I predicted years ago, the simmering conflict between Russia and Ukraine would – if it came to war – be a huge boon to U.S. LNG interests. My prediction has come true. The industry is now booming and new terminals are under construction.
In February of 2022, my grave concern that the United States government was doing nothing to defuse the crisis was confirmed when the Biden administration sent its imbecile vice president, Kamala Harris, to discuss the matter at the Munich Security Conference. At that moment, what was needed to defuse the crisis was a chief negotiator of great skill, social ability, and sophistication – not an incoherent, double-speaking nincompoop. As I watched a recording of her performance, I knew that war was imminent.
A few days ago, the documentary filmmaker, James Patrick, sent me a recording of a high-production value interview he recently conducted with Colonel Douglas Macgregor, who served as senior advisor to Trump’s secretary of defense. Macgregor is a man of extraordinary experience, education, and intellect. (See full text at the end of this article.)
In this interview, he presents a heterodox view of the war in Ukraine. At the core of his view is his belief that the United States government has become a catastrophic failure at tending to its own house. At the same time that we grossly mismanage our own affairs at home, we bungle from one military adventure to the next around the world, making one colossal mess after another. Instead of defusing conflicts abroad, we stoke them.
As a matter of full disclosure, I generally share Macgregor’s view of things. The United States government can’t even conduct an election properly, never mind protect our own borders or balance a budget. Every country abroad it has touched with military force has gone from bad to catastrophically worse.
Macgregor seems to share my conviction that it’s time for the United States government to contemplate the wisdom of Matthew 7:3: “Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but don’t consider the beam that is in your own eye?”
Reprinted with permission from Courageous Discourse.
More from Steve Jalsevac: Colonel MacGregor and most others are puzzled why the Biden government is doing so many wrong things and have implemented what appear to be suicidal policies. MacGregor appears to believe they are the result of ineptitude and corruption. What I believe he is missing is that all of this has been deliberate.
LifeSiteNews has shown Biden, Boris Johnson, Trudeau and other western leaders publicly commit to the WEF Great Reset Build Back Better program. LifeSiteNews has extensively reported on the Great Reset New World Order agenda and we have seen it to be the greatest threat the world has ever faced. The Great Reset program requires the deliberate, rapid destruction of western nations’ economies and influence and massive, even 80% depopulation of the world. It also includes the destruction of all religion to be replaced by a One World false religion with the Francis Vatican cooperation in on the scheme. That is, all of this is being done on purpose, not so much through negligence or stupidity, although those are indeed factors.
I predicted several times that from day one of his presidency, fake president Biden would work to reverse everything that Donald Trump achieved and rapidly destroy the US economy, military and other institutions, law and order and social stability. He has done precisely that.
We don’t need to question why they are doing this in the US, the UK and Europe. It is to condition and force the public to accept the WEF’s nightmare 4th Industrial Revolution, central bank digital currencies and digital IDs and slavery as the supposed only solution to the engineered mass destruction. These globalist leaders are truly that evil, far more than the German Nazis or other past totalitarians.
Secondly, I have found Colonel MacGregor is not as aware as he should be of the still substantial poverty in some parts of China, but more importantly its violently repressive policies against certain segments of Chinese society, Klaus Schwab’s praise for its totalitarian social credit system that he wants to impose on the world, its horrendous forced abortion and organ harvesting programs and its extreme persecution of all religions. LifeSiteNews has reported extensively on these issues over the years with many first-hand reports from leading activists in China.
Regardless of the above, Colonel MacGregor is worthy of praise for his intense dedication to tell the truth about the Ukraine war and for his heroic efforts to prevent it from exploding into a catastrophic World War III.
See many past LifeSiteNews reports on the Ukraine war.
Full transcript of The Truth about the Ukraine War with Colonel Douglas MacGregor:
James Patrick 0:08
Hi, I’m James Patrick, the director of big picture. In this interview, I spoke with a friend, Douglas McGregor, former colonel in the army and advisor to President Trump. In this interview, I asked him what he thinks about the Ukraine war? Is all this really helping Ukraine? is all this helping America? Let’s hear what he has to say.
Douglas MacGregor 0:28
We think of ourselves as this invincible, invulnerable Colossus, that strides the world. We’re not. And we are failing to invest where we need to here at home. We are not investing in high end manufacturing. We’re not investing in energy. We’re not investing in the agricultural sector. These are our great strengths that we should capitalize on. We’re not doing it, and instead of fearing China, and what we should do is limit our exposure where we think that they present a threat to us economically but stop this ridiculous nonsense of going to war yet again 6000 miles from the United States over an obscure island called Taiwan.
It’s silly, it’s nonsensical, just as fighting the Russians in Ukraine is nonsensical for us, it’s irrelevant. It’s crazy. I spent 28 years in the regular army. After graduating from West Point, I left the army at the end of 2004. I then began in a number of different jobs working with or inside the defense industries, either as a consultant or an advisor and then ultimately started becoming a routine commentator on television and radio about military affairs and finally ended up as the Senior Adviser to the Secretary of Defense under Donald Trump in his last months as president.
James Patrick 1:51
So, when this whole Ukraine thing started, what was your first response?
Douglas MacGregor 1:57
Well, I had been somewhat on the periphery of the Ukrainian crisis, if you will. I had been asked to look at Ukraine back in 2014. In the aftermath of the so-called Maidan Revolution, which installed this very right wing government that is hostile to Russia, largely conceived and executed by the United States and the CIA.
Over time, the Ukrainian government in Kyiv began actively oppressing the Russian-speaking population. Russians inside Ukraine, even though there were Ukrainian citizens, effectively became second class citizens. And so, conflict was just a question of when, no longer if.
Ukraine has an interesting history, Ukraine, the word itself means on the periphery or on the margin or on the edge, depending upon how you want to translate it. And the people that live on the edge of what was called Russia, were always different from the Russians themselves. And Ukraine developed a strong sense of identity, particularly in the 20th century. People argued that it was always there, there was always a Ukrainian people. But I don’t think the sense of nationhood was really there until the aftermath of World War One. And there was a serious attempt to build a nation when the Imperial German and Austrian forces pulled out. That failed and Ukraine was ultimately bolshevized like the rest of the czarist empire.
Unfortunately, Lenin who was a student of history, understood Czarist Russia very well. And he altered borders to ensure that there were always minorities within the various provinces or oblasts, whatever you want to call them, who would prevent any large concentration of force that could be aimed at the center. In other words, let’s include Russians, Tartars, and others inside Ukraine who are not Ukrainian to ensure there is no ethnically pure Ukraine that emerges that could present a threat to unity in the Soviet Union.
James Patrick 3:59
And this was out of response to the farmers, the kulaks?
Douglas MacGregor 4:04
Well, that actually comes later, that’s under Stalin, and Stalin sets out to utterly destroy and annihilate 10s of millions of people, not just in Ukraine, but also in Russia, who are so called independent farmers so that was defined loosely as someone who has a plot of land and they own a cow. In other words, that was part of the class warfare gambit, pitting people against each other. But it also created an opportunity for people to plunder Ukraine, murder people, plunder their belongings, enrich your friends who are thugs who are supporting you in Moscow.
We think that somewhere between 7,8,9,10 million Ukrainians were killed, probably one or 2 million Russians that just happened to be in the way as well. That was not the first time that there was a famine. It was orchestrated to murder people that had already happened under Trotsky and Lenin. Stalin perfected it raised it to a high art. We don’t know how many millions of people died between the time the Bolshevik revolution occurred and the second world war breaks out. But certainly somewhere north of 20 million dead. It was a horrible period. And Ukrainians of course, never forgot it.
This orchestrated famine then becomes an excuse to effectively destroy the population in the attempt to Sovietize it, to transform it into what the Bolsheviks called the Soviet man. Terrible crimes were committed, whole families were annihilated. And this, of course, laid the groundwork later on for the Holocaust. The NKVD that was responsible for this murdered large numbers of Ukrainians and ultimately the Ukrainians then respond with the arrival of the Germans in World War II to a liberation and take out their hatred and anger and antagonism on everyone in sight. This is hard to characterize today because we don’t understand what it’s like if you were the only surviving member of a family of say 11 or 12, that included grandparents, and that your land that you’d lived on for hundreds of years was taken from you along with all of your belongings, so that you literally have nothing left.
You ultimately learn to hate Moscow, hate the center, and you’re willing to do anything to destroy them. And anyone who comes along who promises to destroy them is your friend. That’s effectively what happened in Ukraine.
People in the West know almost nothing about Eastern Europe. If you go to the Versailles Treaty discussions, the level of ignorance about Eastern Europe about Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Byelorussia, just astounding, or a place like Moldova, which used to be called Bessarabia, no understanding at all of what existed there no understanding of the people, the complexity of the history. And that resulted in numbers of bad decisions that produced the Versailles Treaty Organization.
So, the bottom line is I don’t fault people in the West for not paying enough attention. It was easier to look at what was happening in Germany because the Germans were open about it. You could walk the streets and see what was happening and there were still plenty of Germans willing to talk to you. That wasn’t the case in Soviet Union, where there was absolute terror, absolute control by the NKVD, that ensured Stalin knew everything and everyone else knew nothing.
Well in January, I was asked whether or not the Russians would go in. And I was one of the few people in Washington said absolutely, they will go in because they were under severe threat. After remember, that after 2014 the Ukrainians began the process of attacking the so-called two breakaway republics, Donetsk and Luhansk, in the east, which were entirely Russian speaking. And they killed roughly 14,000 people between 2014 and 2021. And that was one of the reasons that we had the Minsk accords because Putin, who was trying to avoid a war, went to the Western powers and said, look, we’ve got to have some sort of solution in Ukraine which provides for the welfare care and security of the Russians living on Ukrainian soil.
No one was particularly interested in listening. But he persuaded Merkel and Macron to sign up for these Minsk accords, which essentially obligated Ukraine to take measures to ensure that Russians would be treated equally before the law, that they could speak their language, go to school, and so forth, as Russians inside Ukraine. It was never taken seriously by the West and that, of course, is what Chancellor Merkel admitted publicly during the summer that the entire Minsk accord process was simply designed to buy time to continue the build up of the so-called Ukrainian army.
And what had been happening since 2014, is a very directed, deliberate effort to build not just an army to defend Ukraine, but to build an army that would attack Russia. The army that emerges from this process that we see fighting in 2022 was a very fine force. It was extremely well trained by NATO standards, a standing force of about 450,000. With 200,000 trained reserves. There’s a lot of evidence to suggest that by the spring of 2022, that this army would probably be hurled at these two breakaway republics, with the goal of forcing them back under Ukrainian rule.
And I think Putin decided that since the Minsk accords were a failure, that he would make one final diplomatic effort which of course, he makes a December and January to try and persuade us principally, who are the real backers of the war in Ukraine, to come to the negotiating table and make arrangements that would avoid the war.
We demonstrated we were totally disinterested. But I think most people in Washington concluded that the Russian economy wasn’t strong enough to support a serious war. And, ultimately the Russians would balk and not go in, I was quite convinced that they would. However, I thought they would go in differently from the way they went. They went in with a relatively small force. And I think the attempt was to do two things. First of all, avoid killing as many people as possible. Secondly, avoid damage to the infrastructure, and then third, to persuade us in the West that he was quite serious about his request for a negotiated settlement.
It takes him several months to discover, certainly by June and July, that he has no negotiating partners in the West. And more importantly, he discovers that we and the United States are willing to bankroll this war against Russia, effectively in perpetuity, because our real goal is to displace Putin from power. And that’s made very clear in Biden’s speech in Warsaw when he visits in March. And ultimately, to dismember Russia, to carve it up, get control of its resources, literally erase Russia as a great power.
This was never acceptable to Putin, or for that matter to the Russian nation. And thus, they had to make some new decisions, we’re not going to be able to fight this war with what we have, we’re going to have to build new and bigger and better forces. And since then, the Russians have brought in an additional 400,000 reservists and volunteers. These people are now trained, they’ve been assimilated into the Russian army, and they are dispersed around Ukraine. The vast majority of these troops have continued to train and they’re sitting in reserve. Now what they have done is they’ve rotated some Russian forces forward, so they could see the battlefield, see the enemy.
Some units have gotten limited exposure. But for the most part, the war in the South has been waged with a reliance or what I would call an ISR strike complex. That is where you link intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance platforms, manned and unmanned, space based, as well as terrestrial to strike systems strike systems being artillery, mortars, rockets, missiles, and unmanned aircraft, or what we now call drones. All of these have been organized to be very responsive in very short period of time and destroy concentrations of Ukrainian forces as they tried to attack the Russians in defense.
This has been enormously successful. And as a result, certainly in November, December and January, the exchange rate was about eight Ukrainian dead for every one Russian killed. And people in the West don’t understand that the difference in striking power is one to 10. For every one gun that the Ukrainians have, the Russians have 10, Putin had given strict orders don’t kill civilians don’t destroy infrastructure. And then when they realized they didn’t have enough forces, they decided to essentially lay siege to places like Melitipol and Mariapol.
In Mariapol they had 1000s of Ukrainians eventually surrender, but they killed 1000s of Ukrainians. And so they learned it wasn’t very sensible to go in, building to building, room to room and try and dig people out. It was easier to essentially cut them off, cut the power, cut the water, and then let time do its work for them. The problem for the Russians is this – “we have said that we will not relent, that we are going to fight them until they’re destroyed.” If you tell the Russians that the Russians say to themselves, well, “this war will only end when we are on the Polish border. “ That’s a terrible situation, frankly, for Ukraine, because we’ve said we will not negotiate.
I don’t think Putin expected that this would drag on. I think he really thought that once he showed us in the West that he was serious, and that the Russians would not tolerate this large anti-Russian military establishment in eastern Ukraine, that we would then say, “Stop, let’s negotiate.” And of course, he was wrong. His great fear was not just Ukrainian forces in eastern Ukraine, but that over time, we would then place missiles in eastern Ukraine, they could reach Russia’s nuclear deterrent. And that worried him about his ability then to deter us from using nuclear weapons against Russia in the future.
James Patrick 14:33
But how could this operation take so long?
Douglas MacGregor 14:36
Well, very simple, he had a relatively small, regular army, and this small force was simply not large enough to fight a war in a country the size of Texas. Remember, he was initially only interested in a portion of what we would call Texas. It’s as though you said, well, the Panhandle and eastern Texas are Russian. The rest of its Ukrainian. I want to ensure that Russian citizens in the Panhandle and in eastern Texas have equal rights before the law. They’re not oppressed. They’re not being brutalized and not being punished for being Russians. That was his goal.
And then to find some sort of solution for the two republics, Luhansk and Donetsk, and to extract from the Ukrainians the understanding that Crimea was not up for discussion, it was legitimately Russian and had been for hundreds of years. And he hoped then that he could make Ukraine neutral, as a multinational, multicultural state, which is rather interesting, because we have all of these people currently waging war against him, who ostensibly here are insisting on multinationalism and multiculturalism.
But they wanted to destroy Russia, when Russia was only interested in ensuring equal rights for their own citizens and neutrality for Ukraine. We insisted “no, Ukraine has to be a member of NATO and the Russian position had been for decades. No, that touches our borders, it sits on our border, we will accept neutrality, no one’s forces there, not yours, not ours. No one’s except Ukrainians.”
And they held up the Austrian state treaty is a good model for Ukraine. And if you haven’t looked at the Austrian state treaty, you should because it has worked very effectively. And he was convinced that this could work in Ukraine. Obviously, he was wrong. And that left him no choice but to do what he’s done.
There are estimates that the Ukrainians have now fielded three armies in a row. The first army was largely destroyed in the spring. Contrary to popular belief, the Ukrainians were not winning relentlessly, which was reported in the news media, the exchange rate with the Russians was never good. Then they built a second army in the summertime that was designed to take the offensive against the Russians. That army was largely destroyed by the Fall. And then they build a third Army which is now dying, and much of it has died in Bakhmut, along this 160 mile front, in the north of the Donbass, the Donetsk basin.
Bakhmut has become probably one of the largest blood baths we’ve seen, certainly since the Battle of Shanghai in 1937. Now, there are estimates of 250,000 dead Ukrainians. That’s, that’s beyond what I had anticipated. I thought, perhaps 200,000, I’m being told no, it’s much higher. And it’s again, because of this overwhelming strike presence on the Russian side the Russians have the advantage in the air, they have the advantage on the ground. And the Ukrainians can’t compensate for that, because they simply don’t have the wherewithal, whatever we send to them, is being destroyed almost as soon as it shows up at the front. They’ve been sending these himars systems, rocket artillery systems, over there. The drones that fly over identify them, the artillery strikes them and they’re dead. And this goes on and on and on
James Patrick 18:01
Then you are saying all this aid to Ukraine is debt to them.
Douglas MacGregor 18:05
Absolutely.
James Patrick 18:06
They’ll be in debt for centuries.
Douglas MacGregor 18:07
Well, they already are, and there’s no chance of ever climbing out of it. I mean, this is the great tragedy, Ukraine as a nation has been destroyed. They started out, we think, with maybe 37,000,000, 37.5. Remember, if you go back into the early 90s, they had almost 90 million people living in Ukraine. When this war started there were about 37.5 million. There were already 2 million Ukrainians working and living in the West, in other words, everywhere from London to Rome. Now add to that 10 plus million refugees. At least 2 million Ukrainians that were Russians have gone into Russia, another 9 million Ukrainians, plus have gone into Western Europe. And each day more go there.
There are almost no women and children left. You do have some men, but we’re looking at somewheres between 18 and 22 million people left in Ukraine, and how many of those men are physically fit and capable of fighting? I don’t know what that potential is. But it’s way below what people estimated initially. And they’re now bringing in women and young boys and men over 40, 50, 60 to come in and join units that have been reduced from say, 500 men down to 100. I mean this is a tragedy, unlike anything we’ve seen since World War II unfolding in front of us.
Well, if you look at the people that are running the show in Ukraine right now, they don’t seem to be terribly concerned about the destruction of the Ukrainian nation and its state. That’s the best that I can say. They’re behaving very much like Stalin. And we now know that the losses during the Second World War were not 20 million, they were at least 35 to 39 million. In fact, when I was in Moscow in 2001, I was told that they were then had counted 39,900,000 and were still counting based on their access to the NKVD archives.
This government seems to think in those terms, that they can sacrifice whole generations of men in order to achieve their aims. I don’t see any evidence that it’s going to work. And the Russians are not going to run out of ammunition. I mean, we’ve been hearing about the Russians running out of everything. Their factories, their manufacturing , turning out equipment and ammunition 24 hours a day, seven days a week and multiple shifts. The Russians aren’t running out of anything, but we are, we’ve just about run through our own war stocks.
Same thing has happened in Europe with the war stocks were never very high to begin with. So, you’ve got the German defense minister saying we can’t send anything else, or we won’t be able to defend ourselves. And I think you’re going to hear that from a lot of European states.
Douglas MacGregor 18:13
Is any of this helping Ukraine?
Douglas MacGregor 19:07
I don’t think so. I think the only thing that we’ve done is played a key role in the destruction of Ukraine.
And from the very beginning, I had said to several people, Ukraine is to the Russians, essentially, what Mexico is to us. If we discovered there was a large army that was built exclusively for the purpose of attacking the United States and its goal was to quote unquote, liberate New Mexico, Texas, Arizona, and Southern California from the evil White Yankees, I think we would have acted instantly to destroy that army. The Russians have essentially done the same thing. So there was never any chance that the Ukrainians were going to win an all-out war with Russia. And right now, they’ve got an all-out war with Russia.
Well, you’ve got a nation of over 140 million, fighting a country of what 37 million now down to somewheres, between 18 and 22 million, I don’t, I don’t think there’s much chance that the nation of 140 million is going to lose. And then finally, the Russians are sitting on territory that has the resources, the industry, the technical development, that represents about 90%, of Ukrainian gross national product. They already control it, and they’re not going to leave it. So how does prolonging this war help Ukraine? I don’t think it does. I don’t see any evidence for it.
When you deal with the military and the political leadership in Washington, the key questions that are never asked is, first of all, what is the purpose of this operation? And then someone says, “well, the purpose is to remove Putin from power.” Well, that’s a dumb idea. Because it’s not going to happen. If that’s your goal, that objective makes no sense, so give me another objective.
Well, “we want to hurt the Russians.” Well, In what regard? Well, “we’re going to sanction them.” Well, we already know that the sanctions have failed. There’s no chance of destroying the Russian economy through sanctions. On the contrary, the ruble is now one of the strongest currencies in the world. And the Russian economy has actually thrived – because there are plenty of people in the world that want to do business with the Russians, because the Russians have an abundance of food and abundance of resources, mineral resources, oil, natural gas. So if that’s the case, that’s not a reasonable objective. So give us another objective. We never go through that.
Well, if you don’t ask the first question, “what’s the purpose?”, and come up with something reasonable, the second question is, “how do you plan to do this?” And no one no one ever sat down, “well, we’re just going to drop an avalanche of equipment on top of the Ukrainians. We’re going to give them our best intelligence. That should be enough.”
Finally, what do you want it to look like when it’s over? Well, “we want Russia to be destroyed and Putin to be gone.” Again, this is absurd. This is nonsensical. What are you talking about? It is crazy, crazyville. So you don’t have responsible mature, balanced diplomats and military commanders, talking to you. You’re talking to people who are worse than amateurs, they’re ideologically blinded to reality. Their hatred has unbalanced them.
The first question I ask people when they start, oh well, “yea, Russia, once Russia is destroyed, then it’s just China. Where are these Russian and Chinese armies mobilizing to invade us? Where are these vast air forces ready to attack us in Bomb us? Where are these vast fleets assembling off our shore to invade and destroy us?” This is just nonsensical, it’s crazy.
We are still fortunate in that we do live between two major oceans. We have an enormous strategic advantage over everyone. We’ve squandered it by making enemies where really, frankly, there were none. And that’s very true for Russia. Russia actually cooperated with us very closely, especially after 2001 and their helping Afghanistan to us in the beginning was absolutely essential. If we hadn’t had their intelligence and their support with the Northern Alliance, we could not have gone into that country and stayed for any length of time.
The notion that Russia was this unconditionally hostile enemy was never true. I think it is now. And I think it will be decades before the Russians really recover from their experience with us. So, you know, at this stage, it’s hard to see anything good happening for us, I don’t think NATO is going to survive this experience. I think the Europeans are going to come out of this with new governments. I don’t know if they’ll happen next week, or in six months, but I think governments are going to change in Europe. You’re going to see new leaders emerge and their attitude is going to be why should we follow these Americans.
All the things that we don’t like about the Chinese, we can deal with here at home. If you don’t want the Chinese to steal your intellectual property, then don’t allow them into your laboratories, your corporate labs, your university labs, your research and development. Why let them in? Why let them study in our universities? If you’re that concerned about the Chinese, why not defend your border. You’re letting 1000s of Chinese walk into our country, illegally right now. We don’t even know where they went, we don’t know where they’re going, we don’t know what they’re here to do.
That doesn’t seem to bother anybody. But those things should be addressed here at home first, and then you need a trade policy. And the trade policy is very simple. We’ll do business with China if it’s in our interest to do so. If it’s not in our interest to do so, we shouldn’t do business with them. It’s a very simple prospect. And we got to get control of this very corrupt elite in this country.
The people that shipped our manufacturing base to China, are the wealthy, ruling classes of this country. They began that process while Reagan was in office. And it simply snowballed in the 90s under Clinton. Lots of people got rich from shipping out those factories, those manufacturing centers.
What difference did it make to us whether Ukraine was neutral or not? None, we should have made it neutral. When Eisenhower was President, he ultimately welcomed Austria’s neutrality because he argued that we don’t have the resources to defend all these countries. The more neutral states we create, the easier the military burden is on us. Well, that was in the 1950s, when we were certainly stronger conventionally than we are today.
And if you look at the balance of power between the various states, we’re dealing with a continental power in Russia. We’re primarily a maritime and aerospace power. Our strength is really at sea and in the air. We are only a land power in the western hemisphere. So, the notion that somehow or another, we’re going to take on and defeat a continental power is ludicrous nonsense.
And we are we are failing to invest where we need to here at home. We are not investing in high end manufacturing, we’re not investing in energy, we’re not investing in the agricultural sector. These are our great strengths that we should capitalize on. We’re not doing it. And instead of fearing China, what we should do is limit our exposure, where we think that they present a threat to us economically.
Remember, China abandoned communism in the early 1990s. That’s what people don’t seem to understand. We keep saying the Chinese Communist Party, the Chinese Communist Party. I challenge anybody to find a communist in China, these people are capitalists, they understand how to make money. And what China wants to do is it wants to transform itself into some facsimile of Singapore. By the way, so do the Japanese and the Koreans. They’re all very enamored of the Singaporean model.
Well, that’s reprehensible to us because we’d say Singapore is a fascist state, which of course it is. It’s a partnership between the corporations and the government that goes far beyond anything we imagined. And then the rules and laws of those areas are strictly enforced by the government and the government owns virtually all of the property. We don’t understand Asia, we don’t understand the people in Asia. We absolutely do not understand the Chinese and what they want. They do not want to live in a liberal democracy as we imagined it. They don’t want to elect a president from a multi-party system. Xi is effectively the modern equivalent of the Chinese emperor. And they’re very happy with it, because they see that as absolutely essential to their security.
And what are the three things that the Asians expect from their government? They expect security from external attack. And that was something that Chinese emperors failed miserably to do in the last 200 years of Chinese imperial rule. They expect the people to be fed, something else that the Emperor’s failed to do at the end of their dynasty or dynastic succession. And three, they expect the population to be sheltered. Now, if you look at those three things, the Chinese leadership today has done those things very well. If you compare China to say India, there is none of the crippling poverty. The horrific poverty, that you see on the streets in India does not exist in China. And China has 1.4 billion people. Those three things are what they want.
We in the United States should be demanding something similar from our own government, security number one for our country. And that has been treated with complete contempt, if not total disinterest. If they were really interested in protecting us, we wouldn’t have this wave of criminality sweeping across the country, we wouldn’t have these open borders. How many repeat criminals do we routinely apprehend that have been released for all sorts of terrible crimes who have been deported and keep coming back? What sort of nonsense is this? Why do we tolerate these things?
We have a government that seems to be suicidal here at home and suicidal overseas. They’re picking enemies that we cannot take on and defeat, nor should we try. And we don’t have to. And at the same time, they’re doing things here at home that are destructive to our society. It’s hard to imagine a worst set of circumstances and the question is not so much what do we do about the government? What do we do about the American people?
Who are the Americans? Where are they? What are they doing? When are they standing up and saying no more. We will not tolerate this any longer. It hasn’t happened because here, the standard of living is still too high. Life is still too easy. I think the current financial and economic crisis is about to change that. And so perhaps that will awaken the American people to their responsibilities to themselves. And maybe then we’ll get a different government, that wants to protect us, that wants to feed us wants to shelter us.
Transcribed by https://otter.ai.
Manual corrections by Steve Jalsevac