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Caught on video: abortionist tells woman 24-week-old fetus ‘doesn’t even look like a baby yet’

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ARLINGTON, VA, June 13, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The latest undercover video from the pro-life organization Live Action shows a host of abortion doctors nationwide equivocating about fetal development and the humanity of the unborn child, and then describing in graphic detail the late-term abortion procedure that would end these children’s lives. 

In one shot the famous late-term abortionist Leroy Carhart tells Live Action's investigator that in his "heart and mind," life begins "when the mother thinks it begins, not when anybody else thinks it begins."

He adds: "For some women, it’s before they conceive; for some women, it’s never. Even after they deliver, it’s still a problem, not a baby."

The video, the fifth video in a series called Inhuman: Undercover in America’s Abortion Industry, also features newly released recordings from Dr. Carmen Landau, of Southwest Women’s Options in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and a counselor employed at the same facility.

When asked by the Live Action investigator, “Is it a baby?,” the counselor answers:

Well what – how – what do you consider a baby?  It’s definitely a fetus…Um, it depends what the term “baby” means to you, and how you perceive it.

When asked if the possibility of the pre-born baby feeling pain bothers her, the New Mexico counselor replies:

I feel that it’s, um, necessary for the procedure to happen and, ultimately, um, safest, and kind of the most, kinda, humane way to do it, you know?

Abortion doctor Carmen Landau tells the investigator that the injection that will kill her baby is “like any shot, you know, like a flu shot, or a vaccine, really.” She alleges that babies in the womb do not feel pain from the fatal injection. “It’s not like you and I [sic] where when we get a flu shot, we’re kind of, ‘Ugh!’ – not – that – that – that experience of anxiety and suffering is not – it [the baby]‘s not capable of.”

A large body of evidence has found that unborn babies can suffer excruciating pain as early as 20 weeks gestation, and possibly even considerably earlier. Currently a nationwide ban on abortion after 20 weeks based upon fetal pain is being considered in the U.S. House.

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Lila Rose, the president of Live Action, says the goal of her videos to educate the nation on the true nature of abortion.

“These babies,” said Rose, “whom Carmen Landau calls ‘not a thinking being,’ are unique and precious human persons. They feel, they dream, they grow…and when an abortionist tries to kill them with a needle or with forceps, they react. They fight for their lives, just as any of us would."

“Our investigation has exposed the disturbing willingness of abortionists to engage in illegal and inhuman acts,” Rose said, “including misleading pregnant women, pushing them into abortion, and even infanticide. This is horrible, but Americans should know just as well the horrifying practices that are still legal, that we allow to happen every day.”

The first half of Live Action’s latest video details abortionists’ estimation of the humanity of the unborn child. Abortionist Laura Mercer assures the investigator that her 24-week baby “doesn’t even look like a baby yet.” The video provides several images of premature babies born as early as 23 weeks.

Other abortionists, counselors, and clinic workers captured in Live Action's series called the baby “developed,” “fully grown,” and viable, but then seamlessly transitioned into graphically describing how they will kill him. One counselor admitted that babies had been born alive after abortions at Family Planning Associates Medical Group in Arizona. The Live Action investigator then asked, “So you would just let it die on its own if it was whole and breathing?”  “Mm-hm, mm-hm. They will not resuscitate,” responded the counselor.

A counselor at the Dr. Emily Woman’s Center in the Bronx highlighted how arbitrarily babies are given human rights. “You cannot do a termination once it’s outside of the body…He has to resuscitate it, and he has to send it to the hospital," said the counselor. "[W]hen that pregnancy is inside the uterine area and it’s under 24 weeks, it can be – you can do a termination.” 

The Live Action video also chronicles the story of Toby, a baby born prematurely at 24 weeks – the gestational age of the baby of the Live Action investigator at the time of many of the undercover investigations. “Toby puts a name and a face to the atrocious murders occurring in these facilities,” Rose said. “Every day, abortionists are brutally killing children just like him. Whether they’re called ‘fetuses’ or ‘babies,’ this fact doesn’t change, and it’s time for Americans to come to terms with it.”

Over the past two months, Live Action has held rallies in several of the cities in which the Inhuman footage was captured. The most recent rally, in Phoenix, Arizona, brought forth upwards of 400 people, not counting over a dozen legislators and over a score of media outlets, in one-hundred-plus-degree weather.

“What our video investigation is uncovering,” Rose said, “along with what we have learned from the trial of late-term abortionist Kermit Gosnell and from the whistle-blowers from Douglas Karpen’s facility, is that this is abuse. Abortion doctors, counselors, and other staff describe ‘stop[ping] the fetal heart,’ a needle being inserted through the baby’s head, an ‘intrauterine demise.’  They describe babies becoming ‘mushy,’ and how they ‘literally go in and grab and pull pieces out.’ They refer to these babies as human beings, and carry out these inhuman practices on them anyway.”

“Every human being is unique and precious from the moment of conception. But abortionists will not give even these babies – 24 weeks, 27 weeks, viable, capable of surviving outside the womb – the dignity of humanity. So we want to put the question in every American’s head: if not even these babies are worthy of humanity in the abortionist’s eyes, then what is human? What does ‘human’ even mean?”

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