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Cardinal George Pell speaking to EWTN, 2021.EWTN / YouTube

VATICAN CITY, April 30, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — In a newly released interview, Australian Cardinal George Pell has issued a warning to dissident German clergy, describing their opposition to the perennial teaching of the Church as “ominous,” and stating that it is the “duty of the German bishops to uphold the teachings of Scripture” and the Church.

Cardinal Pell, now aged 79, sat down with EWTN’s Colm Flynn to discuss the second volume of his prison journal. The wide ranging interview, aired on April 27, covered Pell’s 405 days in prison after having been unjustly convicted of child sexual abuse, as well as issues in the Catholic Church today.

One of those prominent topics was the state of the Church in Germany, described by the former prefect of the Vatican’s Secretariat for the Economy as “ominous.”

He mentioned “two basic positions,” one of which takes its guidance from Scripture and the Catholic Church, whereas the other is an “alternative Christian point of view,” in which “the last word comes from modern understandings of the Scriptures.”

“I think that there is a percentage of the German church which seems to be resolutely heading in the wrong direction. By that, I mean it is quite clear that a liberalized Christianity, whether it is a liberalized Catholicism or Protestantism, in a generation or so merges into agnosticism.”

His comments come as large parts of the church in Germany have reacted angrily to the recent reiteration of Catholic doctrine, when the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) responded in the negative to a question about whether the Church had “the power to give the blessing to unions of persons of the same sex.”

Since then, a number of bishops and hundreds of priests have expressed their “disappointment” at the document. Among those opposing the CDF are German prelates including Bishop Georg Bätzing, who chairs the German Bishops’ Conference; Bishop Franz-Josef Overbeck, bishop of Essen; and Austrian Cardinal Christoph Schönborn.

This dissent has been supported by the head of the Vatican’s Dicastery for the Laity, Family and Life, Cardinal Kevin Farrell, who signaled a way around the recent Vatican document banning the blessing of same-sex unions.

However, Cardinal Pell issued a clear reminder of the responsibility of Catholic bishops, as well as the limits to their power, noting that ultimately, they are the protectors of Catholic doctrine: “Of course the duty of the German bishops is to uphold the teachings of Scripture, to uphold the teachings of the Church. We stand under those teachings.”

“They’ve got no power to change them, none of us do. What is important is what is in the word of God, what is in the apostolic tradition.”

He offered the opinion that the German church would avoid committing to separating from Rome, suggesting that “I don’t think they will cross the rubicon, but we’ll see. You never know.”

“The really important issue for the Church is: Do we teach publicly what Christ taught? Now some of those teachings are quite unpopular: forgiveness; people with no rights like the unborn; people at the bottom of the pile.”

He defended his own teaching of doctrine, mentioning that a bishop is required to teach the truth, no matter the unpopular reception: “As a church leader, should you speak up on issues where you know you’re not going to get the popular vote, where you know most of the people are against you. Basically, we have an obligation to keep presenting the teachings of Christ and the teachings of the Catholic Church.”

“And our society will be deeply diminished to the extent it moves radically away from the Christian teachings on love and service and forgiveness, and we can already see that in society in the changes that are taking place. We’re often concentrating on the losses to the Church in the decline of practice, and the departure of believers — that’s certainly true. But it has big consequences for society generally, especially when a majority of the people had been Christian.”

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The Vatican has announced its fifth International "Health" Conference on "Exploring the Mind, Body & Soul," to take place between May 6-8, and nearly everything about the conference is rotten -- morally, scientifically and culturally.

Incredibly, the conference organizers have listed huge numbers of globalist and abortion-promoting speakers such as Dr. Anthony Fauci, vaccine developers, Mormon elders, pro-abortion Chelsea Clinton, population control advocate Jane Goodall, a New Age activist, a prominent UK Muslim scholar, and pro-abortion American actress Cindy Crawford, among others.

The logo for the conference is a circle of people linking hands, colored in the tones of the LGBT rainbow flag, and positioned next to the crossed keys and Papal tiara of the Pontiff. In the ten goals listed for the conference, the Pontifical Council for Culture makes no reference to God or the Catholic Church.

The organization and promotion of this conference is beyond an outrage, it is a closer to a sacrilege (also outrageous!).

Indeed, of the conference, Archbishop Viganò has said that the Holy See is "making itself the servant of the New World Order." [More below about Arbp Viganò's reaction to the conference...]

Please SIGN and SHARE this petition urging the Vatican to CANCEL this desperately wrong-headed appeasement to the secular world disguised as a "health conference."

114 speakers are set to appear at the event, including prominent and diverse names such as:

  • The CEOs of Pfizer and Moderna, the former of which produces abortion pills;
  • The Director of the National Institute of Health (NIH) Francis Collins, who advocates using fetal tissue in research projects;
  • Chelsea Clinton, a strong advocate for abotion;
  • The head of Google Health, David Feinberg;
  • And, Dr. Anthony Fauci from the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, whose advice to government officials played a major role in shutting down American churches last year.

These "VIP" speakers are also joined at the Vatican conference by the following: United Nations representative and conservationist Jane Goodall, who supports population control; new age activist Deepak Chopra; rock guitarist Joe Perry; Mormon Elder William K. Jackson; executive chair of the British Board of Scholars and Imams, Shaykh Dr. Asim Yusuf; pro-abortion model Cindy Crawford; and, by Salesforce CEO, Marc Benioff, who has firmly aligned himself with the globalist, liberal elite, by censoring conservative voices on his platform.

The sheer number of speakers holding anti-Catholic views has sparked a firestorm of well-deserved criticism.

And, in an letter published by LifeSiteNews, Archbishop Viganò roundly condemns this conference and, moreover, the infidelity to the Church's perennial teaching. Here is a brief excerpt (read the whole letter by clicking on this link):

"...The Holy See has deliberately renounced the supernatural mission of the Church, making itself the servant of the New World Order and Masonic globalism in an antichristic counter-magisterium.

The same Roman Dicasteries, occupied by people ideologically aligned with Jorge Mario Bergoglio [i.e. Pope Francis] and protected and promoted by him, now continue unrestrained in their implacable work of demolishing Faith, Morals, ecclesiastical discipline, and monastic and religious life, in an effort as vain as it is unprecedented to transform the Bride of Christ into a philanthropic association enslaved to the Strong Powers.

The result is the super-imposition over the true Church of a sect of heretical and depraved Modernists who are intent on legitimizing adultery, sodomy, abortion, euthanasia, idolatry, and any perversion of the intellect and will. The true Church is now eclipsed, denied and discredited by her very Pastors, betrayed even by the one who occupies the highest Throne."

The fact that there is so much anti-Catholicism (i.e., anti-truth) held by so many of the speakers makes it impossible to ask for the organizers to simply disinvite disreputable speakers.

That is why we are urging the Vatican to CANCEL this anti-life, anti-truth, anti-Catholic, anti-health "health conference" altogether!

Please SIGN and SHARE this urgent petition asking the Vatican to CANCEL its fifth International "Health" Conference on "Exploring the Mind, Body & Soul."

This conference contains such a high concentration of poison for the Faith and the faithful that is should be canceled, not only for the contents itself, but also for the grave scandal it will (and is, already) cause.

After SIGNING and SHARING, please take a minute to contact the following Church authorities to politely, but firmly, voice your dismay and displeasure at the anti-God, anti-life and anti-faith conference which the Vatican has scheduled for the beginning of May.

Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi - Head of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Culture

Email: [email protected]

Phone: [+39] 06 6989 3811

His Excellency Archbishop Christophe Pierre - Papal Nuncio for the United States

Email: [email protected]

Phone: 202-333-7121


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Pell’s warning is already being proved true, as just days ago, over 550 priests in Germany announced that they would defy the Vatican and hold a special day on which to offer blessings for same-sex couples. A much-hyped blessing service for same-sex couples entitled “Love wins, blessing service for lovers” is now planned for May 10, with more than 50 Catholic parishes so far signing up to offer such a blessing.

While this was described by Bishop Bätzing as an unhelpful event, which would not be “a way forward,” he re-affirmed his commitment to the German Synodal Path, saying that the members of the Synodal Path had been conducting discussions for some time “about the way in which the Church’s sexual morality, also regarding homosexuality, can be further developed with viable arguments — on the basis of fundamental truths of faith and morals, progressive theological reflection, and likewise in openness to more recent results of the human sciences and the life situations of people today. This also includes an appropriate discussion of the question of blessing services. In the present situation, the Synodal Path is a central place to discuss the topic of successful relationships in a comprehensive way.”

Cardinal Pell’s unequivocal warning to the German prelates on the matter of adherence to Catholic doctrine is supported by Cardinal Raymond Burke. The American prelate, formerly prefect of the Apostolic Signatura for six years, made his comments to EWTN’s Raymond Arroyo last month.

Referring to the widespread tone of rejection to the CDF’s decision, Cardinal Burke mentioned that it was symptomatic of the influence of the pro–homosexual agenda within the Catholic Church: “The blowback is simply an expression of a worldliness, a mundanity, which has entered into the Church by which the aggressive homosexual agenda is now dominating even in certain ecclesial circles and even among certain bishops.”

As for the ban itself, Burke noted how it was a repetition of Church teaching on the matter: “It simply states what the Church has always taught and practiced with regard to same-sex attraction and when it leads then to acts which are intrinsically disordered, not according to God’s plan.”