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CHICAGO (LifeSiteNews) – Former National Institutes of Health (NIH) director Francis Collins laughed about pressuring unvaccinated employees to get COVID shots and defended NIH-funded experiments on aborted babies in leaked audio obtained by The Daily Wire.

Collins, who stepped down from the NIH in December and has since been appointed Joe Biden’s presidential science adviser, made the comments during an October event at the University of Chicago, The Daily Wire reported. Prominent evangelical Russell Moore hosted the event for the Institute of Politics, a group founded by David Axelrod, Barack Obama’s campaign strategist.

Collins, a self-described evangelical Christian, strongly endorsed jab mandates at the private event, telling students with Axelrod’s institute that the federal government has the authority to compel people to get the jab.

“The U.S. government does have the authority to mandate vaccinations if there is an outbreak that is threatening people, because it’s not just about you, it’s about the people you’re going to infect,” Collins said. “There’s no question in my mind that the mandates are legal.”

In a previous interview with Moore just six months prior, Collins had promised evangelicals that there would be no “mandating vaccines from the U.S. government,” The Daily Wire reported.

The Biden administration in September announced federal COVID vaccine mandates targeting tens of millions of Americans, however. The Supreme Court struck down Biden’s jab requirements for private businesses early this year, after multiple lower courts ruled against the policy.

At the University of Chicago event, Collins added that mandates can serve as a useful tactic to coerce people to get inoculated against their wishes, citing his experience as NIH director. “Do [vaccine mandates] convince people who otherwise wouldn’t get them?” he asked rhetorically. “Oh yeah, especially if it means losing your job.”

Collins got a “big response,” he said, when he told 2,000 vaccine-hesitant NIH workers last year that they were “in serious danger of being fired in the next month” if they kept refusing the experimental injections. Under pressure, even some “pretty darn resistant” employees took the jab, he recalled.

“You get the feeling that their resistance was not maybe quite that deeply seated,” Collins said, chuckling.

By fall 2021, the vaccines had been linked to various serious and potentially lethal side effects, including heart inflammation and blood clots. The failure of the shots to halt transmission of COVID-19 had also been known for months.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) admitted in July that jabbed individuals with COVID-19 carry around the same viral load as unvaccinated people and can still spread the virus. By August, the “fully vaccinated” had come to dominate COVID hospitalizations in Israel, a trend observed across the world during the Delta and Omicron waves.

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To his eternal shame, self-professed "Catholic" Joe Biden has done it again.

In the last 10 days, Biden directly acted to promote the evil of abortion. Twice.

And, to their shame, the bishops of the United States continue to tolerate this ongoing scandal as though it's business as usual.

But, let's not give up on our shepherds!

Please SIGN this petition and let's CONTACT our bishops again, and ask them to do the right thing (or, do something!), and excommunicate Joe Biden.

In the latest episode of this ongoing tragedy, Biden nominated abortion-friendly (and, Planned Parenthood supported) Ketanji Brown Jackson to replace Justice Stephen Breyer on the Supreme Court.

Then, as if to underline his Supreme Court pick, Biden made the following statement promoting abortion during his State of the Union address:

"The constitutional right affirmed by Roe v. Wade — standing precedent for half a century — is under attack as never before. If you want to go forward — not backwards — we must protect access to health care. Preserve a woman’s right to choose..."

Of course, we know that making a decision to exclude public figures from Holy Communion is not easy. But, sometimes, this is the only way to make them understand the error of their ways, and to preserve the Church from serious scandal.

And now that Biden has left no doubt as to his intentions and actions - attempting to anchor the United States to the evil of abortion for generations to come - it is high time for the bishops to act to stop this grave scandal from continuing.

Public excommunication would be a suitable response for Biden's obstinate, public and grave sin of scandalously promoting abortion.

Please continue to SIGN and SHARE this important petition. Thank you!


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Following the US Supreme Court's decision to allow Texas' Heartbeat Law to go into effect, Joe Biden made the announcement that he would initiate a "whole-of-government" response against the new pro-life statute which could ban abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected.

This is yet another, outright confirmation of Biden's openly pro-abortion policies, policies which have the main objective of ensuring that women will continue to be able to kill their own children without impediment.

This anti-life, anti-Catholic stance needs to be urgently addressed and condemned by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

For the good of the Church, for the good of pre-born babies, for the good of the faithful, and, indeed, for his own good, Joe Biden needs to be publicly rebuked by the bishops and excommunicated until such time as he repents from his pro-abortion policies.

Please continue to SIGN and SHARE this petition, which asks the bishops of the United States to act in unison to exclude Joe Biden from Holy Communion for his scandalous promotion of abortion - the murder of the innocent.

After signing, please take a moment to CONTACT the offices of the USCCB to politely, but firmly, encourage the Conference to take the necessary steps to exclude from Holy Communion public officials who continue to show blatant disregard for innocent human life and the Church's teaching.

The USCCB's Office phone number is: 202.541.3000

Thank you!


"No man can serve two masters. For either he will hate the one, and love the other: or he will sustain the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon." - Matthew 6:24

In the lead-up to their meeting in mid-June, we call on the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) to exclude Joe Biden and other “Catholic” politicians (like, Nancy Pelosi) from Holy Communion over their public, obstinate, and scandalous promotion of abortion.

Please SIGN and SHARE this petition which asks the USCCB to act to stop the abuse of the reception of the Holy Eucharist by politicians who promote the murder of innocent pre-born babies.

We know that making a decision to exclude public figures from Holy Communion is not easy. But, sometimes, this is the only way to make them understand the error of their ways, and to preserve the Church from serious scandal.

Indeed, Canon Law (Canon 915) declares that those who persist in manifest, grave sin should not be admitted to Holy Communion

Beyond that, at this point, public excommunication appears as the only suitable response for Biden's obstinate, public and grave sin of promoting abortion.

In doing so, we do not hold ourselves up as judges over Joe Biden's eternal soul, but we encourage the bishops to make known one of the consequences of public and obstinate support of abortion by our 'Catholic' politicians.

The fact is, in terms of the manifest, grave sin of abortion, Joe Biden is as bad as he said he would be before the election.

Therefore, it is cold comfort that the USCCB is only preparing to discuss this issue only now.

But even now, if the USCCB publicly excommunicate Biden for his pro-abortion stance (as well as other pro-abortion politicians), the Conference could reclaim some of the moral authority which they lost by their largely silent assent to Biden's candidacy.

Please SIGN and SHARE this petition, now.

Since Joe Biden was sworn-in on the 20th of January, he has wasted no time in signing orders and bills which facilitate the destruction of unborn human life.

  • In one executive order, Biden rescinded the Mexico City Policy prohibiting the federal government from spending taxpayer monies on abortion and the promotion of abortion.
  • Biden also signed (instead of vetoing) the COVID relief bill, which, for the first time in 44 years, contained funding for abortions in America, using taxpayer dollars.
  • Biden said that he wouldn't defend Hyde, and he hasn't.

And, if he and the Democratic Party get their way, a lot more of the same regarding abortion is on the way.

Strong action must be taken lest anyone, especially young people, be confused by the scandal of a "Catholic" in Biden's position aggressively promoting abortion, enabling the killing of innocent human beings.

American rank-and-file Catholics don't want any more compromise and equivocation from the Bishops Conference on this "pre-eminent" life-and-death issue.

We want clear action, not twenty more years of dithering and "dialoguing."

50 million babies have been lost to abortion in the U.S. since Roe!

So, we will NOT accept any more lives lost as a result of dithering and "dialoguing." [**Please see "Notes" below about how it has been reported that some senior U.S. clerics are trying to prevent this discussion from even taking place.]

And, we will especially NOT accept one life lost to abortion by politicians who claim the Catholic Faith, but who promote grave evil. God forbid!

With all due respect to these bishops, they diminish the Holy Eucharist and their high office, as well as cause grave scandal to the faithful, by not imposing public canonical penalties on a man who is promoting mass murder of the unborn against the constant teaching of the Church.

The bishops are now at a crossroads and must choose either God or mammon.

We call on them to choose God and choose Life!

And we also continue to encourage those brave, true and good bishops who have done well to warn Amercian Catholics about the perils to the unborn and the Faith resulting from Biden's promotion of abortion!

SIGN and SHARE this petition, which asks the bishops of the United States to act in unison to exclude Joe Biden from Holy Communion for his scandalous promotion of abortion - the murder of the innocent.

After signing, please take a moment to CONTACT the offices of the USCCB to politely, but firmly, encourage the Conference to take the necessary steps to exclude from Holy Communion public officials who continue to show blatant disregard for innocent human life and the Church's teaching.

The USCCB's Office phone number is: 202.541.3000


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Notes about USCCB's June Meeting:

For nearly twenty years, the US bishops have been dithering about whether or not to excommunicate pro-abortion politicians by formally withholding Holy Communion from them.

Their indecision on this gravely scandalous matter is a scandal in itself, but one of the biggest obstacles has been internal opposition from senior U.S. bishops.

And, although the faces have changed in the last 20 years, their morally-and-intellectually-challenged arguments against excommunication have not changed.

Liberal bishops of the USCCB say that excommunicating Biden (for example) would divide the Church, divide the bishops, and would politicize the reception of Holy Communion.

Indeed, in the name of “unity,” it is reported that some senior U.S. clerics, including Cardinal Blase Cupich (Chicago), Cardinal Wilton Gregory (Washington, DC) and Cardinal O’Malley (Boston), have been working overtime to prevent any substantial discussion of so-called “Eucharist coherence” (that is, what qualifies as worthy reception of Holy Communion).

It is also reported that at least 57 other American bishops allegedly joined these Cardinals in a recent letter to the Head of the Bishops Conference, Archbishop Gomez of Los Angeles, to try to pressure him to drop the planned discussion at the full meeting of bishops in June.

And now, even the Vatican is getting involved, with the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith suggesting that even more “dialogue” is needed.

These same clerics may mistakenly believe that any attempt to suppress the objective connection between a politician’s promotion of abortion and his unworthy reception of Holy Communion will fool anyone.

But, it will not.

Rank-and-file Catholics are not stupid and can smell compromise a mile away, and we’ve had enough.

With all due respect to the Cardinal, bishops, and the Vatican…those who fail to act diminish the Holy Eucharist and their high office, as well as cause grave scandal to the faithful, by “dialoguing” with a man who is promoting mass murder of the unborn against the constant teaching of the Church.

Please SIGN and SHARE this urgent petition urging the bishops Conference to take action at their June meeting to exclude pro-abortion Joe Biden and other abortion-promoting “Catholic” politicians from Holy Communion.

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Collins’ taxpayer-funded experiments with unborn babies

The former NIH head also defended gruesome experiments on aborted babies funded by the agency under his leadership, like those conducted by University of Pittsburgh that involved harvesting the organs of live, full-terms babies and grafting their scalps onto rats and mice.

When questioned by one student about such projects, Collins did not deny that he knew of or authorized them, according to The Daily Wire, and did not say that he opposes abortion.

The self-professed Christian said merely that he is “troubled” by abortion and launched into a lengthy defense of the NIH’s research using aborted children.

“After all, pregnancy termination is, at the present time, legal in the United States. Whether you’re in support of it or not, it’s happened,” Collins said. “The material from those elective abortions,” he said, euphemistically referring to babies’ corpses, “is discarded.” And the dead bodies of aborted babies “can be extremely valuable” for certain research, he stressed.

Paying for and experimenting on aborted babies’ tissue may even the “more ethical” choice than not doing so, Collins opined.

“Can you in fact, in some circumstances, even with actions that you consider immoral, derive something from it that might actually be moral and beneficial?” he asked rhetorically. “That’s the horns of the dilemma upon which I have been resting here for these 12 years as NIH director, trying to oversee human fetal tissue research, which is something that I have to make decisions about.”

Collins’ NIH additionally gave nearly $6 million for research on exploring “sex change” surgeries for minors and allowing girls as young as eight years old to receive testosterone.

Moore told the same student, “I don’t have to agree with every Christian on everything in order to see the fruit of the Spirit in that person,” according to The Daily Wire. “Nonetheless, I can respect him as a Christian.” Collins and Moore acknowledged that they could speak freely because, to their knowledge, the event was not being recorded.

And Collins spared no words attacking President Donald Trump and evangelicals who supported him, saying that “every aspect of that President’s character seems to be the opposite of what evangelical Christians would admire.”

Collins at one point suggested that growing outrage directed at himself and White House COVID adviser Dr. Anthony Fauci was created by Trump to distract from “hundreds of thousands” of alleged COVID-19 deaths caused by the president.

“Great harm was done to the people in this nation by a very, very self-involved and misguided president in the previous administration,” Collins said. “Hundreds of thousands of people have died who should not have had to do so.”

“And so there was an effort to try to distract from that dreadful circumstance by finding somebody else to blame,” he claimed.

As The Daily Wire noted, however, by December 2021 more Americans had died with COVID-19 under the Biden administration than under Trump. Collins also declined to mention that emails published earlier this year showed that he and Fauci moved to quash discussion about whether the coronavirus was created in a lab, even after being briefed on evidence supporting the theory.

During Collins’ tenure, the NIH directly funded research that included developing bat coronaviruses at a Chinese laboratory from which SARS-CoV2 is widely suspected to have emerged.

Both Collins and Fauci have consistently disparaged early treatments for COVID-19, like ivermectin, that research has shown can combat the disease without risking serious side effects.