Is an unborn baby at 20 weeks human? It’s a straightforward question, but House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi couldn’t bring herself to respond to it when asked twice during a press briefing today.
Both times Pelosi dodged the question, saying that politicians shouldn’t be involved in “reproductive health” choices. (Watch video of her answer here.)
The second time the question was answered, Pelosi argued in her response that as “a Catholic and a mom of five” she has “great standing” on the issue. More, she said, than most of her colleagues, and even the pope.
The question, and follow-up, were asked by a reporter with CNSNews in reference to the ongoing debate about a bill in Congress that would ban abortion after 20 weeks, except in cases of rape, incest, and a threat to the life of the mother. The bill bases the ban upon the science showing that babies at that age can feel the pain of being aborted.
One recent poll found that 84% of Americans support the bill.
The debate over “reproductive health” issues “isn't an ideological fight, it is a personal health issue,” said Pelosi in response to the question. “This is up to women, their conscience, their God, their doctor, their fate, their survival. And that is what the decision should be.”
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“Decisions about women’s reproductive health should not be made by politicians in Washington, D.C., but should honor the decisions that have been made by the Supreme Court, a decision made by the Supreme Court, recognizing the right of women to have that choice.”
At one point Pelosi also recounted one occasion years ago when she says a Republican lawmaker stood up in Congress and said that “Pelosi thinks she knows more about having babies than the pope.”
“Yeah, Yeah. That would be true,” Pelosi said.
Pelosi routinely references her Catholic faith when responding to questions about abortion, even suggesting that she bases her pro-abortion views on her faith, such as when she responded to questions about late-term abortion in 2013, saying: “As a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground to me.”
The Catholic Church teaches that abortion is a form of murder.
Transcript of Pelosi’s answer:
CNSNews.com: “Is an unborn child 20 weeks into pregnancy a human being?”
Pelosi: “You know what, what we're talking about on the floor of the House is something that says politicians should determine what effects the health of a woman, her life, her health, and the rest. I don't think it's up to politicians to do that. And that's why we are very overwhelmingly opposing what is going on on the floor of the House.”
CNSNews.com: “My question is pretty simple. On the abortion issue, I understand your position on the legislation, but even the legislation aside, when it comes to the matter of whether or not an unborn child is a human being at 20 weeks gestation, what is your personal take on it. If it is not a human being, then what do you believe it is?
Pelosi: “You know it is really interesting that you would come to these meetings to talk about it. The fact is is what we have said: The life and the health of the mother is what is preeminent in when a decision is made about a woman’s reproductive health. It isn't an ideological fight, it is a personal health issue.
“And as a mother of five, in six years, I have great standing on this issue, great understanding of it, more than my colleagues. In fact, one day many years ago, perhaps before you were born, when I was a new member of Congress, as a Catholic and a mom of five, opposing some of the initiatives similar to what–in the same vein as–what we have today, one of the Republicans stood up and said: Nancy Pelosi thinks she knows more about having babies than the pope.
“Yeah, Yeah. That would be true. So, in any event, this is up to women, their conscience, their God, their doctor, their fate, their survival. And that is what the decision should be. Decisions about women’s reproductive health should not be made by politicians in Washington, D.C., but should honor the decisions that have been made by the Supreme Court, a decision made by the Supreme Court, recognizing the right of women to have that choice.”