Even notorious late-term abortionist had ethical qualms about how fetal tissue is harvested
(Saynsumthn) - A late-term abortionist once admitted that he has ethical questions about the way fetal tissue is procured stating that he did not want to offer women the option to donate their late term aborted babies for research because of pressure to change his procedures to “procure” the baby parts.
Abortionist Warren Hern, who operates the Boulder Abortion Clinic in Colorado, made the statements in a 1989 interview with the New York Times.
According to the article
Hern said that although he favors the use of fetal tissue in research, he has lingering ethical questions about the way it is procured.
He said that a couple of years ago he was repeatedly asked to supply the tissue by a group that has since stopped procuring fetal tissue. "I finally started throwing their letters away unanswered,” Dr. Hern said.
He said the group suggested that he vary the amount of suction he used in abortions, which bothered him.
"It probably makes no difference to the woman, but I’m reluctant to do anything that would add length or discomfort to the abortion process,” he said.
In addition, Hern told the New York Times that an overriding reason why he does not want to procure fetal tissue is the "unbelievable harassment” he gets from “anti-abortion” groups.
Although Hern had ethical questions about “procuring” aborted babies for medical research he had no qualms killing those same children.
In fact, Yahoo Parenting once highlighted a woman who claimed that she paid an abortion doc $25K to “euthanize” a 36 week unborn baby.
The article then names Hern’s clinic as the place where the woman killed her child, writing:
“It was a four-day procedure, and I had to have it done by Friday, when I would be 36 weeks pregnant. There is no doctor in the country who performs abortions after 36 weeks.”
Then she added, “You have to show up with $25,000.”
“So I called the Boulder Abortion Clinic in Colorado. We scheduled everything we needed to… It was a very, very difficult day. Euthanizing the baby is, obviously, a very hard thing to do. After the injection, he asked how I was feeling, and I just said, “I feel so sad. I’m going to miss her.”
Read more on that here.
This week a top Planned Parenthood abortion doctor was caught on tape trafficking in aborted baby body parts. The trade appears to be something that happens in other abortion clinics as well.
In fact, the harvesting of aborted baby parts is not new, as evidenced by that same 1989 New York Times article:
privately financed research, often involving transplants of fetal tissue into animals and people, is carried out at places like the University of Colorado Medical Center in Denver and Hana Biologics, a company in Alameda, Calif.
In 1989, the Times reported that the largest supplier of fetal tissue was the Institute for the Advancement of Medicine, in Effington, Pa.
“James W. Bardsley, president of the institute, said he provides scientists with 300 to 600 specimens a month from 150 to 300 fetuses,” the Times wrote.
Bardsley told the Times that he sends employees to abortion clinics three to five days a week to process fetal tissue and pays the abortion facilities rental fees of $500 to $600 a month when his employees are at clinics for several days a week and $1,000 a month when they are there every day.
According to that 1989 article:
Another leading supplier is Dr. Thomas Shepard, a professor of pediatrics, obstetrics and environmental health at the University of Washington in Seattle, who is supported with Federal money to collect about 600 fetuses a year…estimated that he has obtained about 10,000 fetuses in the past 26 years.
CONSENT NOT ALWAYS OBTAINED:
The New York Times continues:
But, Dr. Caplan [Dr. Arthur Caplan, a co-director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Minnesota] said, about 90 percent of researchers get fetal tissue through private arrangements with abortion clinics or gynecologists. He added that it is not known how much fetal tissue these researchers use.
One indication that women do not always give informed consent before their fetuses are used in research is Mr. Bardsley’s experience. About a year ago, he said, he began insisting that clinics and hospitals that supplied him with fetal tissue ask the women first if they wanted to donate the fetal tissue. About half of Mr. Bardsley’s suppliers refused and no longer provide him with tissue, he said.
"Some of the clinics were just too busy," Mr. Bardsley said. "They did not want to initiate a change like that. They thought it would be too much of a burden." Many hospitals, he said, "did not want to have anything to do with changing their consent policies," adding, "They felt that would bring it to the attention of the patients and that would be bad public relations."
FETAL PARTS COME FROM ABORTION CLINICS:
Abortionist James J. Parks, who was once accused by another abortion doctor of assembling an old fashioned meat grinder and using it to grind the fetuses in his clinic, told the NY Times that he supplies fetal tissue to researchers at the University of Colorado.
MANIPULATING ABORTION PROCEDURES:
The New York Times article confirms the fact that manipulating abortion procedures, a point made by Dr. Deborah Nucatola, is nothing new.
In the Planned Parenthood video, you can hear Nucatola say how she will crush above or below in order to preserve the specific organ from the suffering unborn baby she is in the process of ripping apart in the womb.
According to the 1989 article, Bardsley admitted that he looks for abortion clinics or doctors who use particular abortion methods in the second trimester.
They cannot inject the fetus with saline, urea or other substances to kill it before the abortion because then the fetal tissue would not be usable. Instead, the abortion must be done by dilation and evacuation, in which the doctor essentially pulls the fetus out of the anesthesized woman.
The article continues:
To get usable tissue during the first trimester of pregnancy, Mr. Bardsley encourages doctors to use ultrasound to find the fetus in the woman’s uterus and then to use special suction abortion techniques, varying the amount of suction "to try to trap the embryo in the catheter,” he said.
A Florida doctor…said he has procured fetuses for Mr. Bardsley by using a suction abortion technique he developed that allows him to extract intact first-trimester fetuses 80 percent of the time. Abortions using this method take 15 to 25 minutes instead of the usual 5 to 7 minutes, the doctor said.
The unnamed abortionist admits that the procedure used to obtain the fetal body parts takes extra time than doing a regular abortion would.
MORE ON PLANNED PARENTHOOD:
Although the term “tissue” can involve a number of pathological or biological specimens, the recently released Planned Parenthood undercover video by the Center for Medical Progress showed that the largest abortion chain was operating a grisly aborted baby body parts operation.
A glance at additional websites reveal that the practice may not be isolated.
Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast’s website:
“Biologic Sample Acquisition” for “Donated Fetal Tissue,” and under “Additional Areas of Interest” they have “Tissue/Biologics Collection”
And at Planned Parenthood Southwest and Central Florida, Inc.’s website we learn that minor can donate “tissue samples.”
While oftentimes a minor’s health care decisions are made by a parent or guardian, there are certain situations where minors can make their own healthcare decisions independent of parental or guardian knowledge or consent. Such situations are heavily regulated by law and include minors who have become emancipated, minors who are donating blood or tissue samples and minors who are independently seeking examination and treatment for a sexually transmissible disease.
Planned Parenthood Southern New Jersey’s website tells patients that they may use or share a patient’s personal info to, “Respond to organ and tissue donation requests.”
A Planned Parenthood of North Florida HIPPA form says that Health information may also be used and disclosed for organ, eye, or tissue donation purposes.
Reprinted with permission from the Saynsumthn blog.