(LifeSiteNews) — In previously unseen footage, the former chief of the United States Capitol Police suggests that the federal government itself was behind the so-called “insurrection” on January 6, 2020.
“I’m not a conspiracy theorist,” said former chief Steven Sund to Tucker Carlson in the until-now unaired interview, “but when you look at the information… it sounds like they were hiding the intelligence.”
Sund has authored a book titled Courage Under Fire, which details the events leading up to January 6 – and the events on the day itself.
In the book, he asks:
What did the intelligence community know about the plans of the insurrectionists before the attack?
Why was the request for the National Guard continually denied and delayed? Why was the nation’s capital so vulnerable?
Sund says in his book that he was “forced to take the fall and resign.” His attempt to reason why government and military agencies did not assist him has led him to question the official narrative.
Speaking to Carlson in the unaired interview for Fox News, he asked:
Could there possibly be actually… they kind of wanted something to happen?
It’s not a far stretch to begin to think that.
It’s sad when you start putting everything together and thinking about the way this played out… what was their end goal?
The brief video released with the report is a two-minute extract from an hour long interview – recorded whilst Carlson was still at the popular network.
Sund alleges that military intelligence agencies were involved in gathering intelligence in the run-up to January 6. This chimes with mainstream media reports detailing numerous points of contact between intelligence agencies – and groups like the Proud Boys.

A ‘far-right conspiracy theory’
The notion that U.S. intelligence agencies played a role in the so-called “insurrection” of January 6 has been routinely derided in the mainstream media.

The so-called conspiracy theory is also credited in large part to Tucker Carlson, who according to Media Matters, has committed himself to “conspiracy mongering” – saying in one video, “The riot was a ‘setup’ by government organizations put in place in order to justify a large-scale persecution of conservatives.”
Carlson is the subject of a defamation lawsuit by former U.S. Marine and “Oath Keepers” member Ray Epps.
As the Washington Post reported on July 12:
Carlson began regularly questioning whether Epps was an informant or undercover figure on his broadcasts, describing him as someone who ‘helped stage-manage the insurrection’ in one January 2022 broadcast.
In a January 2023 broadcast, Carlson reminded his audience that Epps had not yet been charged. ‘Why is that? Well, let’s just stop lying,’ Carlson told his viewers. ‘At this point, it’s pretty obvious why that is.’
Ray Epps is on video repeatedly urging marchers to head to the Capitol on January 6th.
Despite his obvious role in instigating the “insurrection,” Ray Epps’ name was removed from an initial FBI call for information on suspects, and he has never been charged with an offense.
According to a Politico report on May 30, 2023, over 1,000 people have been charged for the “riot,” with 485 being sentenced – and 277 jailed. Stewart Rhodes, the first of nine Oath Keepers to face charges, has been sentenced to 18 years in prison.
In the brief video featured in the National Pulse report, Carlson states, “You have to be an idiot not to assume he is working with somebody. I mean, come on!”
Carlson notes that the January 6 hearings disclaimed any connection between Epps and “law enforcement.” Yet the committee said nothing about this ex-marine’s potential connection to military intelligence – which Sund believes “must” have been involved in January 6.
Sund, mentioning his treatment of the strange case of Ray Epps in his book, noted that the “January 6th committee thanked him for his candor.”
Joe Rogan joins the ‘conspiracy’
Popular podcaster Joe Rogan said in a July 28 broadcast that “The Jan. 6 thing is bad, but also, the intelligence agencies were involved in provoking people into the Capitol Building. That’s a fact”– before going on to ask whether Ray Epps “was a fed.”
I don’t know, but… I think that every other person who who was involved in coordinating a break-in into the Capitol and then instigating people, they were all arrested…
This guy wasn’t. Not only that, but they were defending him in The New York Times, The Washington Post… saying Fox News has unjustly accused him of instigating when he clearly instigated, he did it on camera.
I don’t know if he was a fed. I know a lot of people think he was a fed.
Joe Rogan Blows Jim Gaffigan’s Mind That Intelligence Agencies May Have Infiltrated Jan 6th
“Trump was very open about his disdain for the intelligence agencies…Throughout history people of unchecked power and unchecked influence have enemies, and Trump was their enemy.” pic.twitter.com/7MxC5B49ND
— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) July 30, 2023
Rogan supplies one reason why U.S. intelligence agencies – military and not – would seek to smear President Donald Trump and his supporters with a staged act of sedition. It is because they are the very Deep State to which Trump is vocally opposed.
When the facts change
The facts of January 6 have been subject to change – even in the mainstream media. Leftwing Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claimed on October 25, 2021 that January 6 resulted in “almost 10 dead.”
Any member of Congress who helped plot a terrorist attack on our nation’s capitol must be expelled.
This was a terror attack. 138 injured, almost 10 dead. Those responsible remain a danger to our democracy, our country, and human life in the vicinity of our Capitol and beyond. https://t.co/D0qLlaFjTh
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) October 25, 2021
Sensational claims about “terrorism” are inflamed by statements such as these. So how many people did die on the day – and who were they?
In response, journalist Glenn Greenwald said:
Claiming that there is “almost 10 dead” from the 1/6 riot is deceitful in the extreme.
Four people died on 1/6: all Trump supporters.
It’s possible to connect a couple of the later police suicides to 1/6 if one stretches enough but this need to exaggerate 1/6 speaks for itself: https://t.co/TsRFGG0tWC
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) October 25, 2021
He went on to say:
The lesson of 9/11 is – or should have been – that allowing politicians to deceitfully exaggerate domestic threats or exploit the propagandistic term ‘terrorism’ to justify civil liberties assaults is dangerous in the extreme.
According to FactCheck – one person was killed on the day. Ashli Babbitt was shot and killed by police lieutenant Michael Bird, who was exonerated of all charges for shooting blindly through a door.
Bird’s identity was withheld from the public for months, with “safety” reasons cited.
When he finally went public, Bird framed the killing as an heroic act of service.
In a shameless traduction of Babbitt’s death, he said, “I know that day I saved countless lives.”
He was speaking of an action which Trump described as a “murder.”
Two more pro-Trump protesters died of heart conditions, whilst a third was found to have died of a drug overdose the following day.
The New York Times ran with the shocking story of police officer Brian Sicknick, who was said to have died as a result of being struck by a fire extinguisher by a rioter.
It later emerged that Sicknick had died of a stroke, which had no relation to any blunt force trauma. Several officers took their own lives following the events of January 6 – whose inclusion has been cited as justification for Cortez’ imaginative – and misleading – tally.
With the publication of this footage, sent to the National Pulse by an unnamed whistleblower, an important counter to the official version of events is once again in the spotlight.
More releases are promised, which may help us to answer a question which has plagued the former Capitol chief of police for more than two years – what was their end goal?